just no

Morons literally. I am amazed that these people can breathe. I don't get this movie. is it even a movie it just looks like a load of shit on youtube and somehow attacking US Embassies is justifiable and killing people? Because the movie said Mohammed was a Pedophile?

I will put this here and other people can make their own minds up about that one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha. She was 9 when the marriage was CONSUMATED!?!?!?! O fuck it, thats a fucking pedophile by this day and age. These people don't deserve defending.

Also womanizer? 13 wives? I think the worst thing out of this is the lack of reasonable response to a crass low grade film that isn't worth taking a shit on, and all the people saying it should never been made, oh what have they done, these people should be ashamed.

Who the fuck cares? So what, the reaction to the Danish cartoon was ridiculous, the reaction to this moronic movie is absurd. I can only understand the reaction if I apply this logic. They are all fucking morons and cunts who are so devoid of brain power that they cannot think for themselves or properly and are less worthy of a conversation than a household pet. How fucking stupid can you be, go die you idiots. I have no sympathy for people who go to this level of violence over something so blatantly stupid. 1, Humilty, 2 accept criticism, 3. Fuck em its your life what do you care about someone else's opinion. Oh thats right you probably don't want to think about it because you don't like the outcome.

No religion any where is worth a life. Religion is not worth shit, wake up morons your bus is leaving.

And fuck Mitt Romney that Grade 1 Type R ass clown, you worthless sniveling Wiesel.

Also I have read a lot of shit from horrible misguided people saying that this is because the Youth want to actively bla bla bla. Do these people understand Freedom from Oppression? It seems not and you have to wonder why run from one oppressive regime and fight for Freedom when all you're going to do is create a universally uncontrollable form of fanaticism.

I give you the innocence of muslims:

Honestly its scarcely believable that anything of this scale has happened at such a crap movie. I just hope they start defending embassies with more appropriate response. If the crowd wants to march with banners and have nice peaceful demonstration for a religion of peace that would be nice but you're all doing it horribly wrong.

There is no room for such a large momentum of idea that cannot take criticism it will oppress everyone who doesn't follow it. This goes for Christianity Judaism , Budhism and any other religion. Everyone else should not have to follow your stupid idioctic rules and lack of morals *lets face it no religious book has anything worth reading* just because you follow them. Go fuck yourselves.

Annoyed

I don't get why people react in certain ways, but after thinking about it I decided to delete a "Friend" more like an acquaintance really from my Facebook, he decided to make light of the fact, on his friends wall. OMG he removed my from my friends list I am so distraught. Sarcasm works like shit one the internet but still. Couldn't help but think Moron.

It started with a conversation about my likes of atheist pages, apparently my high and mighty attitude had got on his nerves. I was apparently just trying to be cool.

Erm, coming from the guy who drives an EVO 7 and works out loads I think thats rich, and considering no one thinks religion and politics is cool, you sort of wonder is he all there? What the fuck does he know anyway about me? I been an atheist all my life and have been bashing religion for ages. I have too much respect for people to look at them from a religious stand points, and friends of mine have become indoctrinated by religion and stopped talking to people who weren't as religious as they were.

What an absolute asshole. Coming from a guy who stole from Tesco to pay for his drugs, cars and computers by selling it all on Ebay you got to wonder how a thieving scumbag like him has a problem with my Atheism. It wasn't even anything that bad to be honest it was just a Tim Michen picture and some blurb. Quite frankly though he has always been a cunt.

Dave P******* II u a are class one fucking retard and I hope you get what you deserve, probably a lengthy prison sentence..

The real reasons
Trying to be objective on this subject is nigh on impossible. There are a lot of invested emotions in the Mass Effect series and it plays out in a particular way. You essentially experience the Mass Effect World and it is extremely personal. All the choices made lead you to expect something big and gravitating at the end. Essentially you put yourself in the shoes of your character and have been living this world for 5 years. The responsibility of the developer becomes apparent in such a situation you can't end it in a way that would cause distress or anguish in doing so it is almost as if you have ruined some one’s life and changing it forever.
However the Mass Effect Ending does something worse, it is an ending applicable to everything and nothing. Deus Ex Machina Latin for God out of the Machine is an ancient plot device that details a superficial ending where it applicable to anything. To question it is to question God and is sacrosanct. This gives rise to the Hypocrisy and the Sanctimonious attitude of those defending the ending.
The ending is literally Deus Ex Machina where by the God Child or Star Child unceremoniously appears / materialises out of nothing in the story to end it giving you 3 very similar ending choices resulting in death and destruction of some sort. It is neither both poetic, intelligent nor sincere. The ending is Convoluted and disingenuous in that it does not end the series its duplicitous nature ruins the entire series, ending the series with such hypocrisy and nonsense leaves a niggling feeling in everyone’s mind. It is neither satisfying nor relevant to the series as a whole. Anyone who criticises the ending is attacked by sanctimonious duplicitous cohorts of those who created the ending.
The PR team for Bioware were for a while saying we’re accepting all criticism from everyone and creating spread sheets analysing the data. Now they have suddenly changed their tune to we are blocking anyone who critiques our ending and that it is somehow incredibly clever and sanctimonious. Jessica Marizan has been comparing it to the ending of inception. Inception is convoluted and as South Park so adequately puts it “Just because it’s complicated doesn’t mean it’s clever.”
The best comparison to the Mass Effect Ending is to think of Scooby Doo, where by at the end of the episode some either exceedingly minor character or unseen character is suddenly revealed and we are supposed to be in shock and awe. This is quite ridiculous.
The Game Reviewing Press seems to have been busy comparing Games to Art and saying that they are inviolable, what reason is there to have Art somehow elevated to a status for which you cannot question. It is both irrational and sanctimonious to elevate it to such a position, literally you have to be devoid of all scientific thought process in order to think that because you made something it should be regarded as inviolable. The gaming press even goes as far to say it would be a dangerous precedent to set to change the ending, it is almost the same sort of rhetoric deployed by those practising religion, have we got to the point where we can’t speak out against anything now? Just because someone disagrees they can’t be heard? The now somewhat clichéd expression of its Art you can’t question it belies something sinister that is more “dangerous” than any threat to changing the ending of a game, it threatens Freedom of Speech, Freedom of thought, Freedom to intellect.
The other main problem with the Gaming press seems to be the level of funding they receive from advertising which results in it being very easy to manipulate them when it comes to game reviews. Threatening withdrawal of funding because you gave a game a bad review is worse than lying to the gaming public and giving them inane reviews. The conflict of interest here is astounding yet the press don’t seem to think it’s a problem.
What is more baffling are the people that actually like the ending citing it as poetic, with no real reason to back this up, the ending in literary terms is already described as the worst type of writers cop out that can be used for people to actually consider it poetic is completely irrational.
Next we come onto the Indoctrination Theory, basically saying the ending is a Dream sequence, which is fine in itself but for the ending to be so bad that people would rather think it to be some sort of Dream sequence is incredible.
The Wintersun groups 2004 song Starchild has been used also as a comparison with some saying they almost completely plagiarising the song and an image used in the album. A video of this can be found on youtube and just the image alone is enough to accuse Bioware of plagiarising which cannot at all be thought of art.
The choice at the end of ME3 is possibly the most insulting thing to fans, after many years of multiple choices and routes effectively shaping your own experience of the game and how the story plays out they take that all away and replace it with 3 colour choices which no self-respecting fan will ever be able to accept as the ending to the Mass Effect Series.
The ending is just a convoluted, plagiarised, deus ex machina mess any attempts to rationalise it or hold it in high regard is just hypocritical sanctimonious nonsense and should be met with utter contempt.

ME3 Ending is shit

Ign Article about Drew Karphshyn No doubt most will want to skip over that as it gives IGN page visitors but the point of it is that he left half way through ME2. Drew’s blog post about it is undernearth the IGN Link.

He also seems to back track on the original endings in his current blog post. Also mentioning that Organics vs Synthetics was a key element. There is no way for sure to know what goes on behind the scenes at Bioware so anything I say should probably be interpreted as Speculation but the crux of it is that you can’t really go against the corporate message. He Mentions that Mac Walters was indeed his second in command and that he replaced Drew when he left. I am of the opinion that he is supporting them on this point as if you read the Strategy Informer post he says something different.

An interesting point is Cerberus in the first game is a back plot element which evolved into a major element of ME2 which was not intentional including the creation of the illusive man.

http://drewkarpyshyn.com/c/?p=381

Now the interesting article is this one:

http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/17086/mass-effect-writer-drew-karpyshyn-reveals-original-mass-effect-3-endings
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The Dark Energy was a force that was going to consume everything. According to Karpyshyn, "The Reapers as a whole were 'nations' of people who had fused together in the most horrific way possible to help find a way to stop the spread of the Dark Energy. The real reason for the Human Reaper was supposed to be the Reapers saving throw because they had run out of time. Humanity in Mass Effect is supposedly unique because of its genetic diversity and represented the universe's best chance at stopping Dark Energy's spread."

The original choice was between killing the Reapers and trying to find a way to stop the Dark Energy threat with what little time was left before it consumed the galaxy, or, "Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means."

This still doesn't change the main sticking point of fans: all of the recruitment, all of the alliances, all of the sacrifices, were essentially moot because they essentially were inconsequential to the resolution.

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I suppose a bone of contention with me is that they didn’t carry on this story. I’m not sure if I would’ve accepted the ending as I didn't with the God Child one but hey I will never know.

The main thing about the Mass Effect Series is the richness and diversity, you can make of it what you will hence some of my earlier outbursts. Everyone reads something different into the series taking out different elements be it the focus on love interests. The Alliances you build, the popularity of Wrex even though to me he was more Renegade than a Paragon type Character, defending religious freedoms of the Jellyfish and their enkindlers.

I am slightly worried about the God Child still and the Adam and Eve ending just being a step too far with the religious overtones. It mimics reality in the current backlash against Atheists which has seen a massive surge of propaganda.

If you read Dawkins books or Hitchens ones you usually find that they have well constructed arguments, some of the stuff in the press has just been downright offensive.

I digress though. The main point is that it is secular Shepard stays away for the most part of taking a religious tone in ME1 and ME2 and defends the right of others for the most part which is what one should do. I suppose personally I am very unhappy with some of the comments Shepard says in light of the ending. Originally it just niggled at me, currently it really bothers me as I don’t recall there was anything like it in other games (if you prove me wrong I will retract this statement i.e with a quote)

Yes there have been religious overtones you can see that with Drell and Asari.

However for the Asari it is mainly just manipulation from the Protheans, as was the Jellyfish, thought they were not an important plan for the future that the Prothean prepared and I don’t really know why they revere the Enkindlers so much. Though it shows that a supreme being could just be someone who knows more has more technology. Case in point on this one

The Drell seem to be a species who were not very advanced but very religious and they kept that belief even after they were rescued by the Hanar.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_energy
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Drell
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Asari

Now the interesting thing for me is that Dark Energy is a real theory a lot of famous Scientists had some take on it including Einstein though this doesn’t necessarily mean it’s going to be spot on as a plot element but to me it was the basis of a scientific founded ending which would’ve also answered a lot of other questions. The Christian overtones currently inhabiting the current God Child Ending are not going to be completely religious which is similar to the idea of taking an existing scientific theory and using it as a plot element – it won’t be the same but it is still founded in it. Anyway the God Ending to me showed some very Christian themes such as Sacrifice repentance salvation, Joker & Evi, Adam and Eve thing. I don’t mean to say you can’t have them I just mean to say they are currently very strong and also I can’t see for the life of me what the hell they have to do with anything else in the game.

Wiki entry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy

Nasa Explanation of Dark Energy and Dark Matter
http://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/what-is-dark-energy/

Somewhat I feel that Mass Effect mimics reality and is a representation of it – having a god child just seems like a departure to me but as I stated before this is what I read into it but what do you all see?

(Currently I am of the opinion that Casey Hudson and Mac Walters changed the ending to visit their own beliefs though I’m probably wrong and its more than Religion is so dominant in our society that you can’t help dropping it in even though its nonsense, yes you have a right to practise it doesn’t mean I respect it kekeke)

Still like Strategy informer says it doesn’t answer Gamers real problem with the ending. Lack of diversity and choice which I think is because we all saw something else in it.